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Rigging Festival

Post  Pishkirlin on Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:43 am



From Monday 11 to Sunday 17
Rigging Quiz
http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/?p=WEB22A34X6PWT3

From Monday 11 to Saturday 23
Hook and loop

Saturday 23
Rigging Bake-Off

From Monday 11 to Saturday 23
Puzzling Competition

Further details will be posted next week. Stay tuned!


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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Azeitona on Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:48 pm

wow!
festival! nice xD

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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Sparkywolf on Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:36 am

Yay, I'm looking forward to this!
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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Pishkirlin on Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:23 am

I'm going to post a preview of the Rigging Quiz in order to clarify how it works.

The Quiz consists in 7 scenarios starting from a rigging board.

You will be asked to:
"Maximize the pull of the <colour> chain by the <coordinate> pulley in <n> moves",
counting the number of knots removed and saying if you made any loop.

You are supposed to move the chains in a given number of moves that will risult into a pull from the active pulley.

The order of actions is: 1. you move; 2. the active pulley pulls (if possible), then the next pulley become active; 3. repeat 1, 2, 3 till your moves are over.
The coordinates of the knots DO NOT CHANGE, so when you note your moves, always make reference to the original coordinates. Note your moves in the format: starting coordinate - ending coordinate (e.g. f3 - c1). Whenever you can, make a loops and count the knots within the loop as knots you removed.


Any question or suggestion on how I could improve this explaination?
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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Azeitona on Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:21 am

ok... let me see if i got it.
u will say where i have clear in N moves, then i will have to do the biggest chain possible?
and that C1-F3... will we have the letters and numbers in the board already? i may be a little bit lost to explain how i want to move my pieces...

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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Pishkirlin on Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:11 am

Azeitona wrote:ok... let me see if i got it.
u will say where i have clear in N moves, then i will have to do the biggest chain possible?
Yes. Assume I have asked you to:
Maximize the pull of the brown chain by the NE pulley in one move.
There are two solutions: c1-c7 OR e9-c7.

and that C1-F3... will we have the letters and numbers in the board already? i may be a little bit lost to explain how i want to move my pieces...
Aye, the boards come with the coordinates on them. The pulleys don't have them, though... but I thought it wasn't such a big deal recognizing which one is North, North-East and so on.


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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Sparkywolf on Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:22 am

Pishkirlin wrote:
Azeitona wrote:ok... let me see if i got it.
u will say where i have clear in N moves, then i will have to do the biggest chain possible?
Yes. Assume I have asked you to:
Maximize the pull of the brown chain by the NE pulley in one move.
There are two solutions: c1-c7 OR e9-e7.

and that C1-F3... will we have the letters and numbers in the board already? i may be a little bit lost to explain how i want to move my pieces...
Aye, the boards come with the coordinates on them. The pulleys don't have them, though... but I thought it wasn't such a big deal recognizing which one is North, North-East and so on.

I'm sorry. I'm confused. I understand how c1-c7 works, but I don't understand how e9-e7 works. Wouldn't it be e9-c7? e7 seems like it would minimize the pull...I am terrible at rigging, so please explain, if you would.

And, er, could you put in a compass rose or stick coordinates on half the pulleys? I'm terrible with getting east and west right, even though I can do it in real life easily (but I depend on landmarks like mountain ranges). Even doing this with the coordinates on the pulleys, I managed to get them backwards... stupid, I know.
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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Pishkirlin on Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:59 am

sparkywolf wrote:I'm sorry. I'm confused. I understand how c1-c7 works, but I don't understand how e9-e7 works. Wouldn't it be e9-c7? e7 seems like it would minimize the pull...I am terrible at rigging, so please explain, if you would.
Aww, sorry! Indeed it's e9-c7.

And, er, could you put in a compass rose or stick coordinates on half the pulleys? I'm terrible with getting east and west right, even though I can do it in real life easily (but I depend on landmarks like mountain ranges). Even doing this with the coordinates on the pulleys, I managed to get them backwards... stupid, I know.
Don't worry about that. If I ask you to pull a chain in three moves, that means the pulley to which I am referring is three moves (and two pulleys) ahead.


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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Azeitona on Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:02 am

i am lost lol... from where are u guys seeing what a e9-c7 would move?

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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Pishkirlin on Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:05 am

Azeitona wrote:i am lost lol... from where are u guys seeing what a e9-c7 would move?
The brown piece that is in the e9 coordinate in the original position goes into the c7 coordinate, which results in a pull from the NE pulley.
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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Azeitona on Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:10 pm

there is a board where u guys are looking out this?

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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Sparkywolf on Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:57 pm

Pishkirlin wrote:I'm going to post a preview of the Rigging Quiz in order to clarify how it works.


This is what we were looking at, Azei

Thanks Pish for explaining, I was really confused!
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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Leonelle on Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:52 am

do ye ge extra ponts for splice and tar?

cause sought of how i rig..

and i get incred nearly everytime...

and the first example confuses me..

i thought the point was to get as many peices as possible?

as an example (im not trying to do well here, just a example,)

in the first example-

e5-b6
c6-c7
e4-c2
h2-d1
g1-e1
f3-c1
(any move horizontel below f)

= pulled by Ne
11 knots
tar and splice

is that good?

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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Pishkirlin on Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:39 am

leonelle wrote:and the first example confuses me..
i thought the point was to get as many peices as possible?
It was not meant to provide the best solution, it was just an example of how the quiz works.

do ye ge extra ponts for splice and tar?
Not exactly. You have just to maximize the pull as requested by the quiz. Of course, if you also connected two non-adjacent pulleys, that would be great, but I'm not aware of any scenario in which you have to choose between a longer pulley without bonus and a shorter one with bonus. Maybe loops, but I have already stated that whenever it is possible you should go for loops anyway. However, since I'm not the God of Rigging myself, if such a scenario arise, I will be glad to analyze it and reward the one who solve the puzzle in different way from the one I predicted.

But remember that the task is clearing a specific chain in a given number of moves. If you use more moves or clear another chain, that won't count at all, even if the chain was bigger than the one the quiz asked to clear.
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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Leonelle on Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:15 pm

ah! so particualr peices are spposed to be pulled right?

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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Pishkirlin on Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:00 pm

leonelle wrote:ah! so particualr peices are spposed to be pulled right?
Exactly.
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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Pishkirlin on Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:23 pm

The Festival is now open!

Rigging Quiz
You have time until Saturday 17 to sit the Quiz.

Hook and Loop
Pull the longest chain. Build the biggest loop.
Take a screenshot of both. Post it here.

Rules

1. The screenshot you take must include your pirate or an alt of yours working on the rigging station in the right side of the screen or with his/her name on the title bar of your puzzle pirate client. If you use and alt, it must be either unequivocally recognizable as an alt of yours or verified as such.
2. In order to be valid, your entry must display a yellow or sparkling sail. Blue sails can't be accepted.
3. For the longest chain entry, make sure you are took the screenshot when the game displayed the number of knots pulled away.
4. If you have less than 5 stars on your indicator, your score will be decreased accordingly.
5. Have fun.

Prizes

The prize for the overall winner is 25 and a sword of your choice... which is apparently the best tool to solve knot-based puzzles.

Other prizes
Glimmer of Light and Knights of Saint George will have other prizes (to be announced soon) for their members. Members of The Wisdom will be assigned to the Knight of Saint George group.


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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Azeitona on Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:27 am

nice! xD just a question, can i post a lot of pictures? or there is a limit?

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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Pishkirlin on Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:52 am

Azeitona wrote:nice! xD just a question, can i post a lot of pictures? or there is a limit?
You can enter as many times you want with the highest entry you have... at the time you post, of course.
So you can start posting your current record and beat it over and over till the contest closes.

Oh, I have just realized I forgot to post one rule:
4. If you have less than 5 stars on your indicator, your score will be decreased accordingly.
Try to post screenshots of boards with all 8 pieces (they are available when you reach the 5th star), otherwise we'll have to scale your score.
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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Sparkywolf on Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:42 am

Pishkirlin wrote:Oh, I have just realized I forgot to post one rule:
4. If you have less than 5 stars on your indicator, your score will be decreased accordingly.
Try to post screenshots of boards with all 8 pieces (they are available when you reach the 5th star), otherwise we'll have to scale your score.

Between this and the "sail must be yellow/sparkly" rule.. I'm so doomed.
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Prizes for Knights of Saint George

Post  Pishkirlin on Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:43 am

The Knights of Saint George are going to stick to their tradition, awarding special prizes for trainees.
This year in order to be eligible for prizes your standings in Rigging must be below or equal to Renonwned (Cagliostro, Defrass, Mmiimmii, Pusplac, Sparkywolf, Athika, Auburn, Thalwyn, all pirates and cabin persons, plus Jerricho and Twigman).

1st prize: a golden medal and 6/10 of the jackpot
2nd prize: a silver medal and 3/10 of the jackpot
3rd prize: a bronze medal and 1/10 of the jackpot

The jackpot
The jackpot is a fund open to donations from Riggers of the Knights of Saint George.
It currently amounts to 15.000 PoE.
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Post  Pishkirlin on Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:24 am

Pishkirlin wrote:It currently amounts to 15.000 PoE.
Just posted and already raised to 30.000 PoE.
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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Leonelle on Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:33 pm

skeptical im not to sure about the loop contest...

im not a loopy person (wait, did I, Leonelle, just say that?) so the best ive done as 10 while i was day dremaing...

and then there the dilema of getting it ONTO the internet...

oh, and btw- Im sorry pish but i believe its impossible to pull 1 or 2 knots...

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Re: Rigging Festival

Post  Pishkirlin on Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:27 am

Pishkirlin wrote:
Pishkirlin wrote:It currently amounts to 15.000 PoE.
Just posted and already raised to 30.000 PoE.
The Jackpot for the Knight group is now 45.000. $_$

Leonelle wrote:oh, and btw- Im sorry pish but i believe its impossible to pull 1 or 2 knots...
What do you mean?
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Prizes for The Glimmer of Light.

Post  Piratus on Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:45 pm

This the Glimmer of Light's first time to award prizes for a festival and we have decided to make our part run a little diffrently than our flagmates. We don't have many above Renowned in our crew, so we will run them all together.
1:st prize: A golden medal with a blue ribbon and 15.000 poe.
2:nd prize: A blue card and 5.000 poe.

We don't have the same pot system as the Knight's do, but The Glimming Box is always open for donations and enough of them would give us a budget to get better gifts.


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